I have brewed 20 gallons of a stout recipe with this grain. The first ten gallons I put an extra pound of this in and it definitely had some strong burnt flavors. It was still drinkable but on the strong side. I liked it enough that I made another 10 batch and I used two pounds of this grain instead of three. It is much much better and I will be making it and modifying it again. Great fresh grains from Morebeer.